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leetzter_dood · Sep 17, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39

I know lots of people post stuff like this, but i just havent been able to find a good N/Any MM build right now. Im set up as a N/RT (minion bomber) and im using it for PVE and Alliance battles right now, but for PVE I just want a good minion master build. Any suggestions are welcome.

Ensign · Sep 17, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00

Animate Bone Fiend, Blood of the Master, Resurrection Signet, whatever in the last five slots. You can fill them with the worst 5 skills imaginable and you'd still be effective.

Peace,
-CxE

Hella Good · Sep 17, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12

Just look around. There is tons of MM builds posted. Like Ensign said all you pretty much need is Animate Bone Fiend and BoTM. For the most part, you'll have some sort of non-minion damage dealer for initial damage (RFlesh, DSwarm, etc.), then your choice of minions (you can mix and match and do just about any combo), then your support skills (stuff like Dark Bond, Death Nova, whatever). GL.

milias · Sep 17, 2006, 03:51 PM // 15:51

Here's what I use:

Death: 12+1+3
SR: 9+1 or 9+3
Heal: 9

Skills:

Flesh Golem {E}
Bone Fiend
Bone Horror
Blood of the Master
Heal Area
Healing Breeze
Taste of Death or a damage spell
Rebirth

leetzter_dood · Sep 17, 2006, 04:13 PM // 16:13

Thanks, but whats a good elite? I know there's Flesh Golem, which does lots of damage but i've heard that Aura Of the Lich is good (for spamming BOTM)

Ensign · Sep 17, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19

I like Offering. Aura of the Lich is ok for spamming BotM, Flesh Golem is a filler elite if there's nothing you actually want to use. Really, you can put anything you want there and it doesn't matter, there isn't a key MM elite.

Peace,
-CxE

milias · Sep 17, 2006, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by Ensign

I like Offering. Aura of the Lich is ok for spamming BotM, Flesh Golem is a filler elite if there's nothing you actually want to use. Really, you can put anything you want there and it doesn't matter, there isn't a key MM elite.

Yea, Flesh Golem is kinda like a "filler elite", but that's the only one available to me in my build. I like OoB also, but since I spec'd into Healing, I don't want to put any points in Blood. AoL is redundant and too much upkeep, in my opinion, since the BotM and HA combo keeps you fully healed and gives you 242hp per minion, which is enough to cover the -10 degen (although it can go over that, but by then, you'd want new minions, anyway).

And while you're in battle and you can't use HA, use HB to keep yourself healed while spamming BotM.

ubermancer · Sep 18, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03

I use this for Urgoz, should I be forced to play MM, where EOE should be down constantly.

Animate Bone Fiends
Animate Bone Minions
Blood of the Master
Taste of Death
Death Nova
Rising Bile
Icy Veins
Putrid Explosion

No rez because with 47 R/Monks who needs it?

Hella Good · Sep 18, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55

Icy Veins + Fiends sounds interesting. If you pick your targets well you can do massive damage with Fiends focus firing and dropping things fast.

ubermancer · Sep 18, 2006, 04:44 AM // 04:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hella Good

Icy Veins + Fiends sounds interesting. If you pick your targets well you can do massive damage with Fiends focus firing and dropping things fast.

Yep. And since Im a Necro fan I tend to take an SS over an Ele as the DD for Urgoz B/P... I generally ask the SS to take Barbs for my called target. Add that with the wide aoe armor ignoring damage spike capability, and its not uncommon to see the first and last death in a group <2 seconds apart.

Pick Me · Sep 18, 2006, 02:29 PM // 14:29

N/Me:

Animate Flesh Golem (e)
Animate Bone Fiends
Animate Bone Minions
Blood Of The Master
Verata's Sacrifice
Blood Renewal
Signet of Capture/Death Nova
Rez Signet

If you wanted, you can sub BR for Taste of Death.

Available Elites instead of AFG:

AotL - only capped in Hells Precipice - good for spamming sac skills
OoB - meh, I have enough energy, that I don't need this.
Tainted Flesh - enchant your minions (not fiends) and watch enemy health drop
Greneth's Balance - reheal yourself (from you sacs) and drop enemy health like a rock
Well of Power - only if you have max undead minions (so until then, don't waste corpses for this unless you have to).

leetzter_dood · Sep 18, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Whats good armor and weapons for a MM build? I've heard of Ghial's Staff, Bortak's, etc... which in your opinion is the best? And what armor? I was thinking of a +energy one...

ShaneOfMach · Sep 19, 2006, 01:32 AM // 01:32

My... awkward build

Animate Flesh Golem
Animate Bone Fiend
Animate Bone Horror
Animate Bone Minions
Blood of the Master
Dwaynas Sorrow
Heal Area
Rebirth

i use this often in Urgoz, when my minions die fast and i need an army ASAP!

plus, due to their quick deaths, dwaynas sorrow works wonders! just cast it on yourself

Attributes:
16 death
11 soul
10 healing

Hella Good · Sep 19, 2006, 02:17 AM // 02:17

Meh, u dont ever need more than 2 types of minions. That is overkill. If you have your whole bar dedicated to raising minions, you will be completely incapacited otherwise. I can't play such an MM. I need to be able to do damage. In fact, I prefer more damage in my minion build and less minions and minion sustaining skills. I generally take Rotting Flesh/Well of Suffering for max degen and then use my Fiends/Whatever combo. Seriously you are going to be counterproductive having all 4 minions.

brad- · Sep 19, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Agreed. I MAY take FG, Minions, and 1 melee type...but usually just golem and minions...but I'm considering swapping him out for icy viens.

16 Death
10 SR
9 heal

Ghial's Staff

Minions, FG, Blood of master, nova, cap/Wtfe, HB, HA, Res

de necro fiel · Sep 19, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55

how do i get a flesh colum?????? in whits town

Pick Me · Sep 19, 2006, 12:52 PM // 12:52

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Originally Posted by de necro fiel

how do i get a flesh colum?????? in whits town

Flesh Golem is located North of Senji's Corner if I'm not mistaken. There are maps to guide you on where and the most direct route to take. Just remember, getting to him is not really easy, lots of fighting. Once you get to the guy, he's nothing. Easily killable.

ShaneOfMach · Sep 19, 2006, 01:36 PM // 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hella Good

Meh, u dont ever need more than 2 types of minions. That is overkill. If you have your whole bar dedicated to raising minions, you will be completely incapacited otherwise. I can't play such an MM. I need to be able to do damage. In fact, I prefer more damage in my minion build and less minions and minion sustaining skills. I generally take Rotting Flesh/Well of Suffering for max degen and then use my Fiends/Whatever combo. Seriously you are going to be counterproductive having all 4 minions.

If you've ever been to urgoz's warren before, you'll realize your minions drop like flies, and the only way for me to sustain an army of 8+ minions, is to bring animate skills that I can spam! Additionally, because EoE is en effect here, having a diverse army of minions is much better than only one kind, seeing as all of your minions will die almost instantly.

Edit: Now that I see that the user is asking for just a general build and not for Urgoz, I retract my build and post the one I use for missions and exploration -_-

Attributes:
Death - 16 (sup rune + hat)
Soul Reaping - 11 (sup rune)
Healing - 10

Skills:
Animate Flesh Gollem
Animate Bone Fiends
Animate Vamparic Horrors
Blood of the Master
Deathly Swarm
Rotting Flesh/Signet of Capture
Heal Area/Karai's Healing Circle
Rebirth/Ressurection Chant

Bacially, try to get as many Vamp horrors as you can, but if you're in a quagmire, spam Bone Fiend to get an army fast. The purpose of this build is to spam BoTM almost constantly while your vamparic horrors heal you, very effective.

If you're looking for a N/X build, just replace healing circle and rebirth with Taste of Death/Soul feast and Ressurection signet. Target your flesh golem constantly and just use Taste of Death/Soul Feast when you're low on health.

de necro fiel · Sep 19, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49

i dont have senji corner... i am from the old guildwars and now in fations whit him can i get him in a other place?

Pick Me · Sep 19, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by de necro fiel

i dont have senji corner... i am from the old guildwars and now in fations whit him can i get him in a other place?

Nope. You must travel from Kanieng Center to Senji's Corner. You must travel to Viz. Square (complete mission). From there, go from Dragon Throat (you get there after beating Viz. Square) and travel to get to Nahpui (completing Closer to the Stars quest). Beat that city mission and you end up in Senji's Corner.

My Tyrian N/Me and my Canthan Rit/N both have AFG.

Good luck.